Yea it needs more testing. Maybe have 1-3 second delay after every melee, also bring back bats in the saferoom

i like the bat idea, ill see what can be done

the melee is fine imo but it hasn't had any extensive testing

sounds reasonable but thats where teamwork comes in, ur team needs to help clear common more with this so u can save ur melees for attacks when u need them

I do not agree, I think that adding a "penalty" or more fatigue to avoid melee spam is a good idea.
But to find the right numbers it need more than a couple scrim to test it. 0.02$ here

After playing a pug on it, I have to say it would take a lot of getting used to, you're taking out a major proponent of the game, what with being able to clear commons as well as regular clearing (deadstops aren't so bad) and with a single pistol you will get wrecked by commons, I'd personally do three things.

1) Make it 2 swings, so that things like a missed pillpass wouldn't result in unneeded lolnomelee OR make it 3 seconds.

2) Put a SINGLE (or two) Melee in every saferoom, along with dualies. No melee spawns in map

3) make spitters die after a single shove, because at 5 seconds/shove she'd never die

then she can keep scratching for 4 dmg? if you want to sac have your tank kill you.

will try for melee weapons in saferooms

**** PzMod v1.1 beta ****

- added plug-in to spawn 4 melee weapons in each saferoom

i have not tested the update yet, but im pretty sure the plug-in will work.

In my opinion, if you have to change gameplay elements to balance your original balance fix, the problem likely lies in your initial "fix". I don't support this mod at all, but if you want it to succeed I think you should look at addressing getting raped by CI by playing around with your initial change instead of introducing larger game play changes. You should look at trying lower melees to cause fatigue, or 1 melee with a shorter fatigue. Work with your original ideas before you implement new ones.

i dont like how you can't take a deagle

so i want to go deagle shotgun on hr4 but then i get boomed ******* common hitting me in the back fo the head while im trying to clear a smoker but geeez can only melee one at a time how to fix this pz stache tell me

and don't you dare say something like "don't get boomed/commonlocked/etc"

why not make it like tank punches, and punish the player for missing a melee by making the timer higher if you're just m2ing to look cool and aren't actually hitting anything

this made me think

might forget the melee plugin if its too much of a hassle and try going with a lower fatigue timer or possibly 2 melees

LOLOL GUYZ LETS REMOVE THE FIRE FROM THE MOLLY, OH WAIT LOLOL LETS REMOVE THE BULLETS FROM THE GUN, OH NHAHAA

in all seriouslys ness tho, this does sound interesting.

PzMod Beta released

www.l4dnao.com/index.php?site=forum_topic&topic=2667&type=ASC&page=1

I just don't feel like it's a necessary survivor debuff. While you say it increases teamwork on survivor side, it decreases it greatly on SI side. In my opinion, one-on-one the survivors should be able to overpower any one SI. With this mod, there won't be any need to "save" your fellow SI from deadstops, being bashed to death, and stop-and-skeets.

I feel like infected is the harder part of this game, and it should be a large part of what determines skill. I'm not really sure we need to make their job any easier than it already is.

I heard this is the mod of pros, confirm/deny?